An up-date, sorta.

I’ve found it quite hard to write about what’s going on in Ireland this last year. Since 2008, almost one million people have either left the State or are unemployed. To crunch what this means exactly. There was 4.5 million people in the State about 2007.  You half that number, near enough, to take out the old and the young, so 2.75m between 18-65. Then you remove the people who are working in the home, about 500k.  Leaving you with 2 and a bit million people. Now remove the million I mentioned above.  These are rough numbers and I did sharpen them but they are near enough the trend.  But anyway this is why I wasn’t able to keep an update the current situation as others have done.  It’s just too darn depressing.

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8 Responses to An up-date, sorta.

  1. Rebecca S. says:

    When I was in Vancouver recently, a very pretty Irish girl was trying to get me to donate to Doctors Without Borders. I thought about what you had been saying about young people leaving the country in droves and felt sad.
    I do hope things begin to turn around.

    • V.H says:

      They won’t you know. They went about things in such a way as to make certain of that. It was as if they were actually trying to destroy the place. To give you an idea. The minister of finance who was running things in the early part was dieing of pancreatic cancer. Didn’t develop it ‘had it’ before it began. And he was allowed to remain in position.
      They waited this long to update the insolvency laws from that which the English left us with. Something done four times in the UK over the last 90 years. And what have we got, something so draconian that were you to go bankrupt here as distinct from the UK or the US you’d really need to a an utter idiot.

      • Rebecca S. says:

        I wonder how the UK feels these days, too. We seem to be getting a LOT of Brits immigrating here too. Especially here in the Fraser Valley.
        In Vancouver there is an organization that helps Irish immigrants settle here as most of them find it very different than home. Sigh…the world’s in trouble it seems, and the bankers and governments are trying to tell us it’s all ‘manageable’. The proof is in the migration pudding, I suppose.

        • V.H says:

          Migration from the UK comes from a couple of distinct sections of the community. And they tend to move with intent.
          It isn’t the plumber like from Ireland but the owner of the plumbing company. Another is the young under 25. We tend to ship graduates the UK those that don’t go to uni because daddy is rich enough, sorts long gap-yearers. We used to call them travelers, distinct from back-packers. They tend to have enough cash when they arrive that they hit the ground running. In this the Irish are a bit stupid for it takes them two years to get to where the Brit gets in six months. Another difference is that the Irish tend not to help their own unless they see a fleecing opportunity and then they call paying someone nowhere near the going rate a helping hand, not theft.

  2. Kimberly says:

    Approximately a fourth of the population…that’s a lot of people. I believe you wrote a little about this a few months back and it’s surprising to me. So many places are in this economic “down turn” so to speak, and so I wonder if it’s truly better elsewhere. Where are they going?
    Do they tend to be recent college grads who can only find work elsewhere or just anyone? Are they leaving with jobs lined up or just hoping for the best?

    • V.H says:

      Yes we have one of the highest if not the highest population of grads in the western world. And not just grads but post grads too. So out teachers are in demand as well as virtually any other you can name. They are flexable since the house prices meant they couldn’t afford a home here so were renting. But when they move, what is a huge section of out population is swallowed into cities and countries without so much as a burb.
      These days it’s mostly Canada, but Oz and the USA feature too. Of course the UK is there. The difference these days is they are slotting seamlessly into professions and middle-class suburbia.

  3. Ed says:

    Unfortunately I haven’t been reading about what is happening in Ireland and why this is happening. It just doesn’t make it into the newspapers or televisions here. I’ll have to do some surfing to read up on the subject but it sounds pretty dire.

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